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Lord WarATron Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.04.07 11:47:00 - [1] Edited by: Lord WarATron on 07/04/2008 11:48:39 Get rid of plates. You do not need them. Also you can use 3 hardners for all lvl4's. You also need damage mods. In the past, ships lacked rigs but now with rigs, you have a easy time. use the following Apoc for low skilled pilots H: 8 x mega modulated pulse energy beam (This is a pulse, not a beam) M: Afterburner, 3 x Cap recharger II L: 2 x Large Armour Rep, 3 x Hardner II, 2 x Heatsink R: 3 x CCC Rigs Ok assuming you have low cap skills, it runs forever with 1 rep and guns. And with afterburner if you have have decent cap skills. If you do not plan on using a afterburner ever, drop it for a cap recharger. (BTW, the setup does not need advanced weapon upgrades but needs engineering lvl5, if you lack that, drop afterburner for recharger or tracking computer) Reason to avoid tach - Hitting a cruiser with 30% of your shots is not that good enough. Better to hit 60% of shots with pulse (nightmares are a exception due to tracking bonus etc). Apoc has optimal bonus so you can hit 20km with navy Multifreq for 500-600dps depending on skills, with upto 50km optimal with navy infared (250-350dps). Abaddons also make decent ships, but you need major cap skills for any sensible setup on that -- Billion Isk Mission
Lord WarATron Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.04.07 13:37:00 - [2] Edited by: Lord WarATron on 07/04/2008 13:37:09 Originally by: J'Mkarr Soban Originally by: Lord WarATron Reason to avoid tach - Hitting a cruiser with 30% of your shots is not that good enough. I hit every single time when they get in MF range with Tachs. I call BS on this one. If you wait until they are orbiting you at 15km, you're doing it wrong. A low skilled pilot wont have decent enough tracking skills to hit 100% of all mission cruisers with 100% of shots with tach. -- Billion Isk Mission
Lord WarATron	Posted - 2008.04.07 14:21:00 - [3] Edited by: Lord WarATron on 07/04/2008 14:22:33 Originally by: Gotrek Gurnisson Originally by: Lord WarATron A low skilled pilot wont have decent enough tracking skills to hit 100% of all mission cruisers with 100% of shots with tach. As the low SP pilot in question I definitely agree with this statement! Any targets past 35km I can hit most of the time with Tachyons (including frigates). But inside 35km I start having problems (as listed above). Quick question, How many Tach can you fit with a harderned tank? You may be surprised but if you dont have advanced weapon upgrades, you might be doing less DPS with tach rather than a standard pulse setup. (due to crazy tach fitting requirements). -- Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Billion Isk Mission
Lord WarATron Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.04.08 15:54:00 - [4] Originally by: Lithalnas Originally by: Mr Reeth You 2 shot volleyed the shields huh? Wait till you get yourself high skills and a Nightmare or Paladin and start 2 shot volleying BSs and instapopping BCs. Or wait until you are killing things so fast you have trouble keeping ships in the target queue. You might want to start thinking about which of those 2 ships you want to go for now. Planning ahead is the biggest win in this game. IÆll sum them up for you real quick. If you have 2 billion isk the Paladin blows away the Nightmare. If you have 5 billion isk the Nightmare blows away the Paladin. Or you can just skip all the tech 2 and faction stuff and go right for a giant golden angelfish called the Revelation. 1 win, 3 fails You dont always plan for bigger ships, you flesh out the ones you have. Secondly a Paladin can be set up for under 900mil, Nightmares for under 1.3bil. Anything over that is ether faction bling or dedspace stuff. Which might be nice but it may not be 2 bil isk nicer. And Third, a Paladin vs Nightmare is hard to call and its a roll of the dice. If the Nightmare brings ECM drones or does the Paladin have a massive sustainable tank. People should get away from expensive 900 -1.3bil fitouts. Only expensive items should be a few navy guns and t2 rigs. Any more than 300mil in loot can and eventually you will get ganked. There is no shortage of people happy to suicide gank mission runners who have 500mil+ fitouts. -- Billion Isk Mission

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